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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
PostPosted: May Fri 10, 2019 8:35 pm 
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I always pronounce the "L" in solder. Why would one not pronounce it?
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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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I always pronounce the "L" in solder. Why would one not pronounce it?
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How would you pronounce the name of the San Diego County city, La Jolla?

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One need not look far to find a wide assortment of words that are pronounced nothing like they are spelled.

I can remember as a little kid sounding out the written word solder and thinking the L was not silent. Only later did I hear others say the word and pronouncing it with the L being silent.

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Some regard such spelling and pronunciation peculiarities as being silly and of no value. For years, though the proper usage of the English language has been a yardstick as to how well a person has been educated, by ones' self or in their school. It's a yardstick we carry with us and is there to take our measure, for better or worse. I remember when it was expected of us to use good English by our teachers. It was then desired of us by our potential employers. I now read official corporate documents written in coarse terms that only a child would have come up with in the past with hardly a second thought given to it.

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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I always pronounce the "L" in solder. Why would one not pronounce it? Cheers, Roger

yea well ...... ya'll pronounce the word "napkin" as "serviette" .... ;-). :::::ducking

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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How do you say soldering iron? same way, 'sodder', if you learned it hands off from an old guy, ' Hey kid, don't touch that soddering iron." :lol:

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All my life in Minnesota and Iowa I have only heard it as sodder.


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... For years, though the proper usage of the English language has been a yardstick as to how well a person has been educated, by ones' self or in their school... I remember when it was expected of us to use good English by our teachers. It was then desired of us by our potential employers. I now read official corporate documents written in coarse terms that only a child would have come up with in the past with hardly a second thought given to it.
Well said, thanks. Shame on the illiterates.
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Reminds me of every time I see the name "Lincoln" I wonder if it was pronounced differently in the past. I say "Linkin" but it is spelled Lin - Koln.

My pappy said, "Son, you're gonna drive me to drinkin' if ya don't stop drivin' that hot-rod Lin- Koln."


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My ninth grade English teacher pronounced vacuum "VAC-you-you-mm", sounding out both U's. I've never since heard anyone else pronounce it that way.
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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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My ninth grade English teacher pronounced vacuum "VAC-you-you-mm", sounding out both U's. I've never since heard anyone else pronounce it that way.
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That is hilarious.
She would have be in the "sold-er" camp.
According to the Cambridge Dictionary, "sodder" is the American pronunciation (for some of us) and "solder" is the English pronunciation.

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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Reminds me of every time I see the name "Lincoln" I wonder if it was pronounced differently in the past. I say "Linkin" but it is spelled Lin - Koln.

I have thought the same thing. But then I thought that it could also be Link-oln.

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engineer wrote:
I always pronounce the "L" in solder. Why would one not pronounce it?
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How would you pronounce the name of the San Diego County city, La Jolla?

Oh well, since this is a phonetics thread, the correct pronunciation of this Spanish term would be as if it were spelled, "La Hoya", as the "l"s are silent; same as the "l" in solder.

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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American English has over a dozen vowels, without getting into diphthongs and triphthongs, and these have to be represented by just A,E,I,O,U, and occasionally Y. Makes phonetic spelling difficult. And many English words come from other languages, retaining their original spelling, despite the fact the English pronunciation can be very different. Plus unstressed English vowels have a very strong tendency to pronounced as a schwa, as in the second syllable of Lincoln. The schwa is our most used vowel by far, and can be indicated by any of the vowel letters.

Pop quiz: how do you pronounce this word: GHOTI.

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...Pop quiz: how do you pronounce this word: GHOTI...Rob


With or without TCHOGHS? :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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Pop quiz: how do you pronounce this word: GHOTI.

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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It is spelled SOLDER! Everyone else is just plain dead wrong. They need to get it right. :-)

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It is spelled SOLDER! Everyone else is just plain dead wrong. They need to get it right. :-)

Mark D.


I don't think anyone was questioning the spelling.

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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Congratulations, Olden Broak! Yes, /ghoti/ is pronounced 'fish'.

Answer key: enouGH (F)+wOmen (I)+naTIon (SH).


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