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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
PostPosted: Jun Wed 12, 2019 10:14 am 
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So what's up? ... Not global warming here.

"global warming" refers to the average temperature. The very messy physics means that local temperatures can be far removed from whatever we might perceive as "normal".

One of my colleagues had an interesting observation. In our area (The Los Angeles basin), there were for many years some very predictable weather patterns. He argued that the apparent "order" was in fact an aberration.
IOW, we should not expect to know what to expect......

In the study of climate change, the big issue is the number of variables. One person's lower temperatures might depend in part on another's increased wind speed.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
PostPosted: Jun Thu 13, 2019 4:14 am 
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i would like to suggest something me and a good weather friend are calling "seasonal shift".

it seems so much that the seasons are starting 4-6 weeks later than usual.

march weather is in april, april in may, so on and so forth.

in 2018, summer never ended until the middle of october. the hottest time of our summer was in all of september and half of october.

ever since we had that tornado outbreak a few weeks ago for 5 days, things have been very unseasonable, odd, and just 'not right'.

fourth of july is a mere 3 weeks away. based on this weather, it should be and feels like it is 8 weeks away.

it certainly is late april, early may weather, not mid-june.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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What weather have you, that is each of us, experienced? Our lifetimes are relatively short. Want warm, what about the Middle Ages, when Greenland earned that name? That seems like a very long time ago, but it is not much time in the history of Earth.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
PostPosted: Jun Thu 13, 2019 6:43 am 
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I'm south of Bob in the Monterey area. It was hot. I checked with three different thermometers at home and several locations as I ran errands in the car. I never saw anything over 86* on Monday. The news reported 104*. I have to wonder if the official thermometer was in a spot that gets hotter than all the places I checked in the same area as the "official" thermometer near the airport. Weird. Seems like the vast expanse of asphalt could bias the reading higher.


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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
PostPosted: Jun Thu 13, 2019 8:57 am 
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Wish we would get some hot dry weather. It seems like it has been raining in the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, PA area for the past two years. It seems like we have rain about every 12 hours, very frustrating for any outside activities.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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I had business in Palmdale yesterday..... At least it is not the Summer in St. Louis I remember - heat and humidity which did not go away at night, mosquitos ….


I grew up in Palmdale. The only time we had humidity was when it was hot and it just happened to rain.


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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
PostPosted: Jun Thu 13, 2019 8:28 pm 
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Wish we would get some hot dry weather. It seems like it has been raining in the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, PA area for the past two years. It seems like we have rain about every 12 hours, very frustrating for any outside activities.

it is no different here.

i feel the same way.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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today, we are having the usual late april / early may pattern: rain, clear blue sky, sunshine, rain, clear blue sky, sunshine, repeat every 1.2 hours.

this is the standard weather from april thru early may.

two things make this strange.

1. it is getting kind of late for this weather, but I've given my thoughts about seasonal shift above, things being 4-6 weeks later than usual.

2. it is cold overall. when it rains, it is cold and damp. when the sun comes out, there is a chilly breeze and the sunshine is not felt.

why is it strange ? by now, when we have days like this in june, it is hot, sticky, humid, and very uncomfortable. when the sun comes out, you just about die with the humidity and stickiness. we are not even close to that for june weather. this is april weather.

we are between showers now. the sun is out, the window is open, and there is a cold 62-65 degree air blowing thru the room. I should be sweating my earlobes off enough to turn on the AC.

time to venture off down to Altoona for the baseball game. it is yinzer night and the Pittsburgh Dad (youtube) will be there. i'll be sure to take my jacket. I will need it.

on a side note, look up the Pittsburgh Dad on youtube. you will learn a lot about west-central PA culture and views. I'm not saying that as a good thing for some of the time :oops: .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loVJvnbmDdU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsl5YpmE0Ig

it is a top notch and well run organization--in the cold.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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Other than quite a bit of on/off rain, summer in Long Island has been beautiful. High's in the '70's and lows in the '60's. Crystal clear skies with sun and low humidity. Today we had light rain and it's actually cool. I love summers like this here. If you had to live in the north east and didn't like brutal winters, Long Island is your best bet. This past winter was very mild with little snow and so far, a very nice summer.


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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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this morning is a bitter and dank rainy 48 degrees. it is perfect and spot-on weather for April 14th. the heat in the house kicked on.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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Scot Armstrong wrote:
I'm south of Bob in the Monterey area. It was hot. I checked with three different thermometers at home and several locations as I ran errands in the car. I never saw anything over 86* on Monday. The news reported 104*. I have to wonder if the official thermometer was in a spot that gets hotter than all the places I checked in the same area as the "official" thermometer near the airport. Weird. Seems like the vast expanse of asphalt could bias the reading higher.

"Seems like the vast expanse of asphalt could bias the reading higher." I would think So?
Welll...Here, in Eugene, OR it was officially 99 degrees - taken at the Airport.
I live in the hills, and you would think that it would be cooler, but sometimes it is,
sometimes Not. It was 100 D in my driveway. Too hot. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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It finally cooled down a bit. Now its just in the 80's, which feels dramatically cooler. Funny how fast people adapt. I am VERY glad I spent all that time installing an attic /house fan. That saved us at night from sweating to bits in the bed.


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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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bobwilson1977 wrote:
It finally cooled down a bit. Now its just in
the 80's, which feels dramatically cooler. Funny how fast people adapt.
I am VERY glad I spent all that time installing an attic /house fan.
That saved us at night from sweating to bits in the bed.

Yes...Here too. :) it was 50 degrees this morning! Awesome.

Re: attic fan: Does it come on automatically when attic temp hits a
certain degree?
I recently had a new roof installed, and my roofer (47 years experience)
discouraged me from installing one. IHO, it would change the flow of hot
air and actually increase the hot air in the attic, as it would pull hot air up
and into the attic through vents all along the eves and the air exits out
the top ridge vent.) Soooo...hmmm I don't know... :|

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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bobwilson1977 wrote:
It finally cooled down a bit. Now its just in
the 80's, which feels dramatically cooler. Funny how fast people adapt.
I am VERY glad I spent all that time installing an attic /house fan.
That saved us at night from sweating to bits in the bed.

Yes...Here too. :) it was 50 degrees this morning! Awesome.

Re: attic fan: Does it come on automatically when attic temp hits a
certain degree?
I recently had a new roof installed, and my roofer (47 years experience)
discouraged me from installing one. IHO, it would change the flow of hot
air and actually increase the hot air in the attic, as it would pull hot air up
and into the attic through vents all along the eves and the air exits out
the top ridge vent.) Soooo...hmmm I don't know... :|


I have two of these installed on my roof and they do a nice job.


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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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...I have two of these installed on my roof and
they do a nice job.
"Breeze driven" only? Correct?

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Both breeze and convection from the interior. I have vents in the eaves that feeds the ventilation.

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I have an oscillating fan on a small table about 8 feet from the foot of the bed, that I use during the summer, for the air movement. It really helps; gets too stuffy O/W, even with the window open.

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A good window fan can do a nice job too, if the air isn't too humid. Have one window exhaust, then open windows where you need cooled.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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I don't understand the comment about an attic fan....the issue is that the air in the attic can get significantly hotter than the ambient air outside. Yes, the fan might pull in air at 100F, but that's an improvement over "attic air" at 120 or even higher.
A thermometer in the attic will tell you unambiguously if an attic fan will help.

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 Post subject: Re: Good Gawd is it hot here....
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We’ve had unseasonably cool weather here with lots of rain. My grass has never looked better. It’s in the 50s right now but the forecasted high is 83. It will be the same tomorrow and for the rest of the week. I am enjoying the opportunity to have the windows open. I’m hearing the buzz of nature instead of compressors. My electric bill should be lower also.


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