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 Post subject: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Thu 16, 2019 5:36 am 
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It resembles a Telefunken Bajazzo, I think.
Seller is including a 3 volt wall wart which he says works. Also, it looks like it takes some sort of battery pack, which is missing.
The price was right (I hope), $50 + $20 shipping.
Anyone know anything about this set?
It is coming to U.S. from Canada.
Thanks in advance.
(Edit - I nay have gotten hosed. Saw a youtube clip describing these as cheap Japanese radios sold under a German company's brand.)

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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Thu 16, 2019 7:51 am 
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Universum-4-Band-Autokoffer TR 782 Best. Nr. 09750
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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Thu 16, 2019 11:43 am 
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Thank you!


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Thu 16, 2019 1:07 pm 
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I don't think you got hosed. That's definitely a collectible radio.


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Fri 17, 2019 3:44 am 
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Thanks!
It's missing the handle, and the battery pack, but I can probably work something out. Plus, from digging deeper, I found that the radio was, being pre 1970, is likely of German manufacture, possibly Telefunken or Grundig.
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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Fri 17, 2019 9:21 am 
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Custom manufactured for Quelle, a large German mail-order company with a presence in four or five of the leading departments store.
Probably by Grundig.
Service information, if ever published, may be difficult to locate.

Kinda like J. C. Penney's Penncrest range.

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Thanks!
Digging for info last night, this is what makes this hobby fun!


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Made by Südfunk: https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/sudfunk_p ... 11904.html
Congrats for the find.
Interestingly two japanese transistors in a german made radio - unusual.


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PostPosted: May Fri 17, 2019 11:38 pm 
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Funkberater Exclusiv K 100154
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The radio above is a Five-band radio. Most components will be the same and you can identify the trimmers.
Three schematic pages.
:) Greg.

oh... UKW (ultrakurzwellen) the German abbreviation for VHF (very high frequency) 30 - 300 MHz
with, as you know... :) .the FM band within the 88 - 108 MHz portion.
KW (Kurzwelle) is SW (Short wave).


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Sat 18, 2019 12:46 am 
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Thanks so much! I speak high school German, remember a little of it.
This is quite helpful, and much appreciated!


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Sat 18, 2019 12:48 am 
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Made by Südfunk: https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/sudfunk_p ... 11904.html
Congrats for the find.
Interestingly two japanese transistors in a german made radio - unusual.

Thank you! I am waiting for the set to arrive, should,be here in about 5 days. Will post pics!


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
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Nice looking set!!


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Sat 18, 2019 3:43 am 
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Thanks!
It was an impulse purchase, but it looks like I lucked out!


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
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Sure does!!


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Sat 18, 2019 6:57 pm 
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Made by Südfunk: https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/sudfunk_p ... 11904.html
Congrats for the find.
Interestingly two japanese transistors in a german made radio - unusual.

Sir,
found a great article about Sudfunk. Have to use translator to read it, but I found it interesting, perhaps some of their products rise to Blaupunkt levels?
http://new-hifi-classic.de/forum/index.php?topic=2102.0

"Who knows the Südfunkwerke in Waiblingen? Nobody? But! Dual, Rosita, Blaupunkt, just to name a few, left devices at the Südfunk Apparatebau Dr. med. Ing. Robert Ott in Stuttgart.

The Südfunkwerke were founded in 1946 by former Wega employee Ott. By 1968, it probably built under its own name, then came increasingly the OEM production to: Quelle and Neckermann were customers. But also dual. The tuners and amplifiers, whose front panels (bottom right) are "Made in Germany", are from Stuttgart. The series 6500 and 6800 of Rosita (Audion) are Südfunkwerk'er. The slimline tuners and preamplifiers XT-240 and XPA-240 from Blaupunkt would be built in Waiblingen. Until the plant was closed in 1981, why the other 240 of Blaupunkt should come from Japan. "


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
PostPosted: May Sat 18, 2019 9:19 pm 
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Dalton, thanks for the link to the article. I didn't knew that DUAL and Blaupunkt let Südfunk produce their hifi electronics.
They reached the level that was requested by the customers. I know that DUAL had some (a few) pretty good devices, but looked odd and better looking came too late.
There were more enterprises that produced for others, like Kaiser or the well known Körting who produced for the Neckermann department store chain.
I personally have no Südfunk items, but after the article my DUAL CR220 Receiver was probably made by Südfunk.

Regards Marc


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
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Thanks Marc!
Always something new to learn...


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
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Looks like My recent purchase on the internals but made in Japan. Spooky
I wonder why two Transformers? One being a choke?

Mine is an Emerson Model 31P51.
4 band 6 inch speaker 12 transistor-8 diode. It's a performer with Volume w/ base and treble controls 4 watt speaker 5 ohms, 5 D cells.
9 pounds. Car adapter. Nothing on Schematics or even advertisements. Sold around 1967.

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Is it possible even then, that a lot of those radios were being produced by Japan with European Name tags?

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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
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Quite possible. I was told it was of German manufacture, but uses some Japanese transistors. A real mystery machine!


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 Post subject: Re: Just bought this German "Universum" radio - Any info?
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Radiosmoker, the picture is so small, I can't recognize it, but could it be the same as that Panasonic RF-895L? https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/national_rf_895l.html. I have one that is even inscribed in german.
Yes, mainly the lower priced german sets from the bigger brands were made in japan. Some were just re-labeled, others were developed in germany and produced in japan.
Edit: This started imo at the beginning of the 60ies and at the end of the 70ies nearly every german radio was made in Japan, Korea or China.

Regards, Marc


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