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 Post subject: I scored a JVC FR-6600JW - Now what? - Now Underwhelmed
PostPosted: Jun Sat 01, 2019 4:08 am 
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Description says excellent cosmetically, all bands and features fully funtional. Got it for a fraction of what these normally go for.
Seller is a collector himself, seems like a very nice chap.
Waiting for it's arrival, he said he would retest it before shipping.
I am on pins and needles. I have captured a Unicorn, please don't let anything be wrong with it!
I have a restored Rf-2200 that is amazing on medium wave. Can anyone tell me where to set the bar for the JVC, as in performance expectations?
Also, I will be looking for a manual to download.

Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: I scored a JVC FR-6600JW - Now what?
PostPosted: Jun Sat 01, 2019 6:38 pm 
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Dalton,
I have a fair amount of literature on this radio that I would be happy to share with you if you want to send me a PM with your e-mail address. I have scanned the Service Manual, User Manual, sales info, etc. As you may know, these radios were branded as "JVC" and also "VICTOR" but the model numbers and radios are identical. All in all, it's a pretty respectable radio.
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 Post subject: Re: I scored a JVC FR-6600JW - Now what?
PostPosted: Jun Sat 01, 2019 7:16 pm 
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History lesson (JVC)... :)
viewtopic.php?p=2859110#p2859110

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 Post subject: Re: I scored a JVC FR-6600JW - Now what?
PostPosted: Jun Sat 01, 2019 11:42 pm 
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Thank you! :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: I scored a JVC FR-6600JW - Now what?
PostPosted: Jun Sat 01, 2019 11:50 pm 
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egg wrote:
History lesson (JVC)... :)
viewtopic.php?p=2859110#p2859110

Greg.

P.S. - never knew JVC built the first television!
Thanks for the great history!


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 Post subject: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
PostPosted: Jun Thu 06, 2019 9:18 pm 
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Arrived extremely well packed. Everything seems to work on all bands.
That's the extent of the good news.
No U.S. power cord, but that shouldn't be too hard to get.
It is about 16:00 EDT here, and my Panasonic RF-2200 AND my 1975 G.E. P4990A both run rings around this thing on a.m..
The a.m. reception is what I'd expect from a cheap Walmart special.
F.m. isn't anything to get excited about either.
Nearly every older radio I purchased online has needed recapped, but most were doing better than this set.
The cosmetic appearance is excellent, not matched by performance.
Light not working.
I checked, voltage is set for 120V.
As I have no cord, it is running on 4 D cells.
Perhaps someone with experience with this radio can tell me if my expectations are too high, or what most likely needs repaired on this set.

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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
PostPosted: Jun Thu 06, 2019 9:26 pm 
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My feeble memory is that JVC was a low end department store brand.....may the facts prevail....;)

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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
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My feeble memory is that JVC was a low end department store brand


It may be now, but it wasn't way back in the 60's when I bought this Zenith clone. I think I bought it somewhere up in the Persian Gulf, maybe Bahrein for about US$60, it was just called a "Nivico FA6000T", Nivico was the "Nippon Victor Corporation" but it had the JVC badge on the front. Worked well.

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AAh - I see that Radio Shack used to sell them too, US$129 - and I have the Nordmende and the bottom of the page, the JVC is long gone

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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
PostPosted: Jun Thu 06, 2019 9:48 pm 
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pixellany wrote:
My feeble memory is that JVC was a low end department store brand.....may the facts prevail....;)


This radio by all accounts was a great performer.
I'm guessing alignment and possibly recap are in order.


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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
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majoco wrote:
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My feeble memory is that JVC was a low end department store brand


It may be now, but it wasn't way back in the 60's when I bought this Zenith clone. I think I bought it somewhere up in the Persian Gulf, maybe Bahrein for about US$60, it was just called a "Nivico FA6000T", Nivico was the "Nippon Victor Corporation" but it had the JVC badge on the front. Worked well.

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AAh - I see that Radio Shack used to sell them too, US$129 - and I have the Nordmende and the bottom of the page, the JVC is long gone

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Very nice looking set!
Thanks for sharing your experience with the brand!


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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
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JVC stood for Japan Victor Corporation, and did indeed make quality electronics; radio's, VCR's, etc. Sometimes you'll get a receiver in that won't make a sound until it's recapped, so by this one producing audio at least you know that it works, and should work well after recap and alignment procedures are done.

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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
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fifties wrote:
JVC stood for Japan Victor Corporation, and did indeed make quality electronics; radio's, VCR's, etc. Sometimes you'll get a receiver in that won't make a sound until it's recapped, so by this one producing audio at least you know that it works, and should work well after recap and alignment procedures are done.

Thanks!
Kinda figured that.
Perhaps someone who has owned one of these can confirm it's normal performance.

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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
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I wouldn't worry about that. Just do the SOP restorations, and then test it's performance against your other receivers at your location.

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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
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My experience with JVC stuff as far as stereo gear is that it is decent second tier equipment, sometimes very good, but one of the companies below the handful of "elite" Japanese brands. And I would estimate that alot of the JVC stuff was fully equal to the lower price point gear from the elites. But they also probably delved into the lower price points where the top shelf makers did not go. As for your radio, maybe it does need some work to be optimum. Just getting the info you need might be a difficulty.

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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
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"JVC stood for Japan Victor Corporation, and did indeed make quality electronics; radio's, VCR's, etc."

Having worked on this crap in the early 80's, a few of us technicians gave it the nickname "junk video company". Same boat, maybe a tiny notch better than Soundesign, RCA, Sanyo. Maybe the earlier radio stuff was better, can't say.


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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
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Here's a 3 year old thread discussing the same model. https://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/vi ... 4&t=310532

Dalton, is this you? https://www.discussionist.com/101911342

Here's a service manual currently on Ebay. I would suggest offering around $20 just for the manual and see if the seller bits. https://www.ebay.com/itm/233202713302

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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
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n3uvt wrote:
"JVC stood for Japan Victor Corporation, and did indeed make quality electronics; radio's, VCR's, etc."

Having worked on this crap in the early 80's, a few of us technicians gave it the nickname "junk video company". Same boat, maybe a tiny notch better than Soundesign, RCA, Sanyo. Maybe the earlier radio stuff was better, can't say.

I wouldn't argue that; I was actually thinking about their '60's to '70's fare, which really did seem to show decent build quality. I can definitely understand their cheapening down in the '80's, as was sort of the norm at that time.

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 Post subject: Re: Underwhelmed - JVC FR - 6600 Arrived Today
PostPosted: Jun Sat 08, 2019 4:33 am 
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Indiana Radios wrote:
Here's a 3 year old thread discussing the same model. https://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/vi ... 4&t=310532

Dalton, is this you? https://www.discussionist.com/101911342

Here's a service manual currently on Ebay. I would suggest offering around $20 just for the manual and see if the seller bits. https://www.ebay.com/itm/233202713302


Yup, that's me on "Discussionist"!

The rules there allow one to be a bit more accurate in ones reviews.

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 Post subject: Re: I scored a JVC FR-6600JW - Now what?
PostPosted: Jun Tue 18, 2019 1:35 am 
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Froggy115 wrote:
Dalton,
I have a fair amount of literature on this radio that I would be happy to share with you if you want to send me a PM with your e-mail address. I have scanned the Service Manual, User Manual, sales info, etc. As you may know, these radios were branded as "JVC" and also "VICTOR" but the model numbers and radios are identical. All in all, it's a pretty respectable radio.
Bob

Well, good news on the JVC!
Turned it on a while ago, it us actually giving the rf-2200 a run for its money!
Not sure what's different, possibly rfi from the t.v. and time of day.
I was tuned in to a religious station, perhaps it was divine intervention!
In any case, I am now thoroughly enjoying this fine radio!


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 Post subject: Re: I scored a JVC FR-6600JW - Now what?
PostPosted: Jun Tue 18, 2019 1:51 am 
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egg wrote:
History lesson (JVC)... :)
viewtopic.php?p=2859110#p2859110

Greg.

I don't know what happened, but this radio has come to life.
I actually think it is more selective than the rf-2200.
Maybe bad results were rfi from the t.v. downstairs?
In any event, I am really enjoying this radio, not getting rid of it now!


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