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 Post subject: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Fri 05, 2022 9:42 pm 
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Is it okay to paint over Restor-A-Finish or does it need to be stripped off before painting? I'm working on a small Emerson table radio that I've applied Minwax antique furniture refinisher that has removed some of the black paint from the cabinet. Initially I wasn't going to repaint the black so I applied the Restor-A-Finish but I've changed my mind and think it would be better to repaint. Also what brand of rattle can paint is recommended?


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Fri 05, 2022 10:44 pm 
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I would clean it off with lacquer thinner before painting. I have heard conflicting statements about being able to refinish with lacquer over Restor-A-finish. Never tried it myself. I would normally use a Mohawk toner for the opaque areas, but I think they would stick out like a sore thumb against the remaining finish which has no grain filling and nearly no build.


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Sat 06, 2022 3:30 am 
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I guess it would be better to prep the whole cabinet with lacquer thinner and then paint. What is the recommended paint type/brand to use?
Thanks,
Mark


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Sat 06, 2022 5:17 am 
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I wouldn't use lacquer thinner if you only need to repaint the black part.... It'll ruin the rest of the finish.

I'd mask off the area around the black stripe, give the stripe a thin coat of shellac to block anything below from causing fisheye in the paint then paint it. If gloss is good I'd go to an auto parts store and grab a can of Duplicolor BUN 100 black spray paint. It's gloss lacquer...I hear that any gloss lacquer can be rubbed out to any level of glossiness even mat.

I have finished over bare wood that has had Howard's applied to it. Usually it's fine but sometimes when I forget to shellac it I'll get fisheye...Fisheye typically comes from silicone contamination. Many furniture polishes/cleaners like Pledge contain silicone and you never know who cleaned a set with what (unless you have owned it since before silicone furniture products were a thing).


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Sat 06, 2022 5:55 am 
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Thanks this is the advice I'm looking for.


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Sat 06, 2022 12:06 pm 
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You said you used Minwax Antique Furniture Refinisher. That is a finish stripper, and that is why it removed the "black paint". Then you said you put Howards on it which has some color in it but is not a finish.

So it sounds to me (and looks) like you have no real film finish on that cabinet, in which case washing this cabinet down with lacquer thinner will do no harm.

To finish this cabinet correctly, you need to strip it to bare wood, fill the grain, stain the cabinet, then mask and spray your toner, then spray clear lacquer. Mohawk makes all the products you need.


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Sat 06, 2022 12:55 pm 
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Ok, thanks. I'm new at this refinishing business. Maybe Mohawk has some videos I can watch.


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Sat 06, 2022 2:04 pm 
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I am with Scott on this one.
Start over and get it done the right way, and you will have a radio that looks like it came from the factory
Dan in Calgary


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Sun 07, 2022 4:49 am 
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This is how I do it: https://antiqueradios.com/features/lacquer.html


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Mon 08, 2022 6:35 pm 
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So I'm looking at the various grain fillers on Amazon and can't decide on which one. What is a recommended grain filler?


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Mon 08, 2022 8:58 pm 
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The best grain fill i have used is ''Timber Mate''
Just ask anyone who has used it and they will tell you.
Dan in Calgary


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Mon 08, 2022 10:10 pm 
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Thanks for that, I'll check it out.


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Mon 08, 2022 10:20 pm 
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Based on my picture above what type of veneer would you say this is, I'm certainly no expert but I think it's mahogany.


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Mon 08, 2022 10:30 pm 
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If you use the "natural" color Timbermate before you stain the cabinet, it will take the stain color and look good. Don't try to color match with the Timbermate as it is impossible to get the correct color, let the stain absorb into it. If you search the forum for Timbermate and use author Fred Taylor, you should get some good info on how to do this correctly.


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 Post subject: Re: Paint over Restor-A-Finish
PostPosted: Aug Mon 08, 2022 11:29 pm 
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Thank you sir.


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