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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Sep Mon 12, 2011 7:32 pm 
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Joking aside, if anyone can find either pattern, I'd be delighted to buy a yard from you. I don't care if you find it in a fabric store or Granny's closet, as long as it looks right and is not some bulky upholstery fabric. The original color of the Capehart-Farnsworth cloth is considerably darker than the faded sample shown.

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Sep Fri 16, 2011 11:22 pm 
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Don't try and order:

Grill Cloth - 12" x 12", Zenith Leaf Pattern, Rayon/Polyester

(pattern 68)

From AES. Even though the web site still lists it, they don't have any left.

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Sep Tue 27, 2011 3:31 pm 
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Here's some encouraging news; one of the guys on the Philco forum has provided Radio Daze with the name of a supplier who makes custom fabric for automobile restorations. The story is at the bottom of this link...

http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 8&start=15

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Sep Tue 27, 2011 10:39 pm 
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Tim Tress wrote:
Here's some encouraging news; one of the guys on the Philco forum has provided Radio Daze with the name of a supplier who makes custom fabric for automobiles.


Excellent, by 2016 we should have some more grille cloth :)

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Sep Wed 28, 2011 3:52 pm 
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Hagstar wrote:
Tim Tress wrote:
Here's some encouraging news; one of the guys on the Philco forum has provided Radio Daze with the name of a supplier who makes custom fabric for automobiles.


Excellent, by 2016 we should have some more grille cloth :)

John H.


Your optimism has brightened my day! I was thinking more like about 2019. :lol:

Bob :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Oct Sat 01, 2011 5:50 pm 
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Relief may be in sight.

I got an email circular from Radio Daze today that contained the following:

As many of you are aware Grill Cloth Headquarters is retiring. As his patterns run out - so will we. We are in talks and negotiations with 2 other textile mills that are interested in producing these patterns for us. We will keep everyone up to date as we solve this HUGE issue plaguing our hobby.

That sounds promising.

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Oct Sat 01, 2011 7:24 pm 
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It is implied ("largest supplier") that not all patterns come from GCHQ. I wonder which ones do not.

Another thing, I think that a lot of people stocked up when the news came out. There may be less demand for a few years overall.

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
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I realize I am coming to this thread a million years late, but I am desperate. Anyone know where I can get some Philco pattern #14?

Thanks for any tips.


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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Jul Sun 01, 2012 6:39 am 
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There is many places to buy grille cloth that will function. The problem is when you are trying to find cloth that has the same pattern that the original radio had. I am currently looking for grille cloth for an RCA 100a but nobody seems to have the original patteren. That is really to bad. It would seem since there was only a couple of places that had this kind of cloth that they would have enough bussiness to keep operating even when times are not so good in general.

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Jul Sun 01, 2012 2:06 pm 
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I don't buy anything thats needs a grill cloth. With none in the barn to work on its ok. Only cloth I have left is for the Philco 38-116.


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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Jul Sun 01, 2012 4:26 pm 
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hoffies too wrote:
I don't buy anything thats needs a grill cloth. With none in the barn to work on its ok. Only cloth I have left is for the Philco 38-116.


Thanks . We all needed to hear that . It was most helpful .


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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Jul Sun 01, 2012 5:12 pm 
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Things are coming full cycle.

I started collecting radios in the '70s. There was no decent grille cloth available, just the stuff for guitar amps. When I resumed collecting in around 2000, it was like I had died and gone to heaven. Authentic grille cloth was available at a reasonable price. I promptly replaced the grille cloth on a lot of my old sets. I assumed this good fortune would last forever. Unfortunately, we're now back where we were in the '70s.


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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Jul Sun 01, 2012 5:22 pm 
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About all you can do right now is search eBay for some grille cloth that doesn't look too bad until something better comes along.

Sam Mashburn, who was at Kutztown with Mark Palmquist, is selling grille cloth. He was basically selling cloth he had left over from grillecloth.com, but he still had some patterns that others had been sold out of for a while. Mark might be able to pass on Sam's contact info if you're looking for some cloth.

The only good news on grille cloth is if you need the 1938 Zenith swirl pattern that is being reproduced and it looks very nice; just do a search on eBay and it will turn up.

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
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When the grille cloth started disappearing last year, a fair number of people predicted it would be just a few months before it would be available again, and were poo-pooing anyone stocking up on it. :roll: So far all that's become available again is the Walton swirl cloth.

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Jul Sun 01, 2012 11:40 pm 
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DavidS wrote:
hoffies too wrote:
I don't buy anything thats needs a grill cloth. With none in the barn to work on its ok. Only cloth I have left is for the Philco 38-116.


Thanks . We all needed to hear that . It was most helpful .


Bla Bla David, relax before you have a ulcer. :P


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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Jul Sun 08, 2012 3:18 pm 
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The grille cloth business involves shipping frequent small orders and answering email like this "I have a radio I got from my grandmother. It's about 3 ft. high, oak wood, with pushbuttons. She said they bought it new in 1919. Would you have any cloth that would match the original? I can't seem to send a picture...." and also mail like "I emailed you almost 24 hr. ago and haven't heard back- are you still in business?" over and over. I'm sure it gets quite discouraging.

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Jul Sun 08, 2012 4:20 pm 
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Ah, I see that John has been involved in a small volume business.

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 Post subject: Re: No more grille cloth?
PostPosted: Jun Mon 10, 2013 9:05 pm 
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I may have found a supplier for grille cloth...

A local historic site (Hearthside House, Lincoln, RI) once housed looms and they're back on-site. The volunteer organization running the place is hoping to raise some money for its upkeep by weaving cloth & they're open to to the idea of smaller runs of special patterns. If the designs are available, they may be able to provide at least some kinds of speaker cloth.

Does anyone have any information on what would be needed for the volunteers at Hearthside to create speaker cloths that would look right for our vintage radios?

I'm not sure if this will go anywhere, but I think it's worth looking into.

Here's the page on the Hearthside House website that includes a picture showing the looms in action "back in the day":

http://hearthsidehouse.org/history/


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