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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Mon 12, 2017 1:46 am 
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Budward - I left the bellows full between uses, making sure to put the cap on. When all the glue was used up I rinsed it and the nozzle out thoroughly with hot water. I had problems with glue drying in the nozzle - keep a needle or wire handy to poke through it. I've had some nozzles become too clogged to use. I'm not sure these are meant to last forever, at least for me. As they become unusable I'll just have to buy some more.

decojoe67 - I thought about using an acrylic wash to darken the crevices but haven't tried it. The black-over-gold-rub-off technique sounds interesting. Maybe I'll try it. I have semigloss black in lacquer or enamel. I'd worry about them harming the gold finish - I'm not even sure if the gold Rustoleum is enamel or lacquer or something else. On your Radiola, what kind of paints were you using?

I believe it was just the standard Rustoleum spray paint. Being they were almost hidden feet I wasn't too concerned about it, but they truly came out perfect. When I rubbed off the black paint immediately after spraying, I remember that it did not harm the gold paint. I was sure to wait until the gold was completely dry. If I remember what my original 48-1000 grill looked like, it seems a very similar process was used. I guess the worst that could happen is you'll have to start from scratch.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Mon 12, 2017 4:01 pm 
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Yeah, not so much. I sprayed the speaker grill with Rustoleum satin black, an enamel, then quickly wiped it off with an old t-shirt. The results have depth, character, and a certain panache, I guess. But it's not good.
- black paint didn't cover the gold well in the crevices
- surface of the grill is not 100% smooth, so plenty of black left in cracks and textures
- wiping wiped off some of the black in the crevices themselves, where I wanted it to remain (this is a matter of technique, I know)
- black paint dried pretty quickly (85 degrees, 55% humidity), getting sticky
- plenty of lint left behind from the old t-shirt on the sticky paint
I think I'll rub it down with some steel wool, see if I can fix up the black in the crevices, mask the crevices with 2mm or 3mm tape, then spray gold obliquely, to catch the tops but not deep down. If worse comes to worst, I'll just spray it all gold again and leave it at that.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Mon 12, 2017 4:12 pm 
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At a quick glance it looks VERY much like what the original looked like, but just not quite there. Yes, I wonder if you can take it to the next level without removing the gold paint at this point. Fine steel wool sounds good. No doubt this is a bigger job then doing the small Radiola feet.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Mon 12, 2017 5:49 pm 
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As you have found old T shirts are no good, not lint free at all.

If you know someone who uses them then scrounge old well washed cotton handkerchiefs.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Sun 18, 2017 3:33 pm 
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The speaker cover is complete. The process:
- strip it all back to the plastic
- spray it with Rustoleum satin black
- mask grooves with 2mm Tamiya tape
- spray Rustoleum gold
- paint the holes with black acrylic
- paint the holes with black acrylic again because acrylic doesn't cover well and one coat is never enough :|

The results look good. They are crisp, which may not be as soft as the original look, but I'm going with it. I thought about cutting the shine with steel wool, but in a test this just rubbed off the gold through to the black. I also thought about dabbing acrylic in the grooves and wiping off, but that seems like a lot of work for not so big a change, and risks damage to the gold. So, i'm calling the speaker grill done.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Sun 18, 2017 3:40 pm 
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Here's an in progress shot of the cabinet today. The decals are on, followed by lacquer - two mist coats, three wet coats. The decals and edges are completely covered. You can see some orange peel - I will rub that out soon. I put the speaker grill on to see how it looks. It looks pretty good.

What's with this cabinet and water damage in a garage? First, it sat for 50 years in my aunt's garage getting wet. Yesterday it was in my garage, while all the lacquer was gassing out. A leak opened in my garage ceiling during heavy thunderstorms. It leaked *directly* onto the TV. It was a very specific leak. The roll of paper towels RIGHT NEXT to the TV was completely dry, while the top of the TV was completely wet. Do the water gods have it out for this TV? Did my family piss off Poseidon somewhere along the line? Jeez! The lacquer prevented any real damage, but the moisture separated some of the wood at the back of the top of the cabinet, causing the finished top to very noticeably curl up at the back. Some glue, some more clamping, and it's as good as new.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Sun 18, 2017 4:02 pm 
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The cabinet looks so dark in the pictures I posted above. Here's how the nice it appears in sunshine.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Sun 18, 2017 5:21 pm 
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Yeah! sunshine sure shows up the nice veneers. I never do touch up work in it as unless you are an artist it will never be good enough. Do it in about the light it will be on display.

Wow! unlucky with the roof ...sure are the King of gluing down :D

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Mon 19, 2017 1:55 pm 
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I fixed up the tuner dial with some fresh paint - Tamiya Dull Red, followed by a coat of Testors gloss coat lacquer. I used a sharpie to darken the paper number tabs. And then I had to used some white and tan paint to fix a couple of numbers that I'd screwed up with the sharpie. The first pic below is how I found the dial - it was a spider condo.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Tue 20, 2017 10:49 am 
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Everything is looking great. Sometimes restoration work goes how you envision it will and other times you encounter every possible glitch. The before and after photos will be amazing on this set. One of the most challenging radio/TV restorations I've seen here on the forum!


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Tue 20, 2017 2:29 pm 
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The insides and outsides are getting ever closer to being reunited.
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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Wed 21, 2017 4:30 pm 
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the cabinet came out beautifull. good work.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
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Yes! good stuff from what it was to now, what a transformation.

Good resto Gary


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jun Fri 30, 2017 6:08 pm 
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I sprayed the final coats of clear lacquer on June 20. At the time, there was much blushing. It cleared up entirely as the lacquer dried and was gone later that day. Even some pretty noticeable, at the time, blushy-sags have 99% disappeared as the finish tightens up as it cures. I thought they'd need work, but now they are all but invisible. If I didn't know exactly where to look they would be. In a week or two, when it's fully cured, I think all it will need is a rubbing down with steel wool with wax. No sanding needed, I don't think.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jul Sat 01, 2017 12:26 pm 
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SO glad you were able to save the veneer on the left side. Still to this day have never seen such a rich figured burl out of mahogany. It must have been cut from a root base. That piece of veneer might be $200 now if you could find it. A piece of typical parallel straight grain would have looked nice enough, but it would have lost a lot of its original character.

Bravo, bravo, bravo!


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jul Tue 11, 2017 3:11 am 
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After 20 days of curing, I rubbed the cabinet down with steel wool and wax, and polished up the black with rubbing compound and a coat of wax, so that it's a bit shinier than the wood portions. After that I put it all back together and violá, it's a Philco TV set again.

See the electronics restoration thread (http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=269342) for assembly pics.
Videos of the set playing are at https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0f5n8hH4m5dr7.

This is my last post - the set is complete. It's been two and a half years, and a very successful result.

--> Thank you all for your help. I couldn't have done this without your advice and knowledge.


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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jul Tue 11, 2017 12:41 pm 
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Congrats! That's a fine result.

I'm on my first radio and have been following your posts. Every time I think I'm into something tougher than expected, I remember that you tackled a TV in really bad shape. Thanks for sharing your project.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
PostPosted: Jul Tue 11, 2017 4:50 pm 
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You did a really nice job on this Philco. As I recall, this set has been in your family for many years. I'm sure there are family members who will be thrilled to see this restored TV set.

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 Post subject: Re: Philco 48-1000 Extreme Cabinet Restoration
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Turned out great, well done.

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