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 Post subject: refinishing Fairbanks-Morse 8AC-2; need advice
PostPosted: Sep Tue 26, 2017 6:23 pm 
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Hi,

I am refinishing my Fairbanks-Morse 8AC-2 console. I checked Mohawk website:
http://www.mohawk-finishing.com/catalog_browse.asp

So far, I am looking at:
Ultra Classic Toner Medium Walnut m100-0207
Mohawk Vandyke Walnut (brown?) m100-0353 for the brown trim
spray can clear lacquer semi-gloss (or should I get gloss?) m102-0419

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 Post subject: Re: refinishing Fairbanks-Morse 8AC-2; need advice
PostPosted: Sep Fri 29, 2017 9:38 am 
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Unless you want the radio very dark that is what you may get with the Classic Walnut toner. Don't know if you have used cans before but they are really meant for touch up by folks who know what they are doing. For whole radios, and particularly a console, they don't work so well as because of the large droplet size they come out looking 'specky'. Then you add more to overcome this and they just get darker and darker.

One way around it is to use a very light shade.

But there are other ways and if you do a search of the Forum you will find plenty to read up on.

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 Post subject: Re: refinishing Fairbanks-Morse 8AC-2; need advice
PostPosted: Sep Fri 29, 2017 4:12 pm 
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My furniture specialist made a new part on the middle crossbar, added new veneer for the top and new veneer for the kickboard. I have already done the grain filler step. So far looks good and very smooth.

I have decided to go with what I already have- Minwax special walnut. I will test it on a small portion of the radio for darkness.

I have also obtained some clear gloss lacquer lacquer made in Ft. Wayne, Indiana. Seems appropriate for a radio made in Indiana. I hope it wont make my radio too shiney. :) I will test it also.

Mohawk wanted $50 for 4 cans which included $20 shipping, handling and haz mat- way too much money.

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 Post subject: Re: refinishing Fairbanks-Morse 8AC-2; need advice
PostPosted: Sep Fri 29, 2017 5:24 pm 
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But Mohawk take some beating in my experience. Behlen are good also but none of UK origin. Mohawk lacquer costs me £10 a can but to me its worth every penny. I usually go for a 75% gloss which can be made high gloss with the rub out. For 100% gloss you can knock the shine back with #0000 WW, wrapped around a block and smeared with beeswax.

Bet you need all of 4 cans for a console.

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 Post subject: Re: refinishing Fairbanks-Morse 8AC-2; need advice
PostPosted: Sep Fri 29, 2017 9:12 pm 
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After testing on a small part of the cabinet, I decided to use Minwax special walnut only on the new veneer on the top and kickboard as these are light and new pieces. It was just way too dark.

On the cabinet, I will use only clear lacquer as the wood is very dark already. On the first pass, the lacquer itself seemed to make the cabinet darker. It is working well so far.

All I need now is some Van Dyke brown or a close match for the trim.

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 Post subject: Re: refinishing Fairbanks-Morse 8AC-2; need advice
PostPosted: Oct Sat 07, 2017 10:39 pm 
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Have you used sanding sealer, or 1 part shellac to 4 or 5 parts denatured alcohol for a seal coat ? This is a very important step before and after grain filling and before staining to prevent the wood from absorbing too much stain or color from the grain filler. It will keep the cabinet a much more desired lighter color before you get to your lacquer coats.
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