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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: May Mon 06, 2019 1:40 pm 
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That's amazing looking Barry wow !
it's a low number also @ 35 so cool i am sure up north here i would never find one so i'll make a wooden clone and looking at the sliding clamps i'll see if i can rob those from a file cabinet as i think i've seen them like those before .
again thanks Barry for sharing this .
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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: May Mon 06, 2019 1:49 pm 
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Sure thing, Don. Let me know if you need more photos, or more accurate dimensions

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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: May Mon 06, 2019 5:12 pm 
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Morcegao wrote:
As far as I know, there are STILL no "official" cards for the #10 or any of its variant types.


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Sorry for the poor quality. I scanned a scan received from some helpful member in the past.

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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: May Wed 08, 2019 2:26 pm 
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morning all
i haven't seen any card update cloning info lately ,has it come to a full stop
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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: May Wed 08, 2019 2:42 pm 
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No. I haven’t talked to Barry about his stuff yet, and won’t for a couple more weeks yet.

I’ve been processing the scans I have. Unfortunately this means displaying the card and typing it’s tube type in. ( the scans are too low resolution for OCR ). It’s tedious and I’ve been busy with some other projects. I’m mebbe a third of the way done

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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: May Thu 09, 2019 2:13 pm 
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great news David , keep up the good work
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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: May Thu 16, 2019 2:17 am 
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Well, here you go...

This data is based on the (old - no longer avaiilable) Old Radio Fixer Upper Guy scans for the Hickok 123A.

My image processing *seems* to be ok, but usage is at your own risk.

If there's a ? in the tube name, it means I had to manually clean the scan - in a couple of cases the original scan was so poor I'm not entirely certain I got it right.

The list of holes is the holes to punch out of the card. *NOT* the ones to leave blank.

I can convert the data into (Linux) XFIG files, and from there PDF and/or GIF. Presumably PDFs/GIFs could be fed to a laser cutter, but I don't currently own one, and obviously haven't tried it.

Further use is left as an exercise for the reader. :-)

Questions/Comments -> Me! Cries of derision -> Someone who cares (not Me!).

David

Barry I'll send you a PM you next week. I'm on-call this week and going to take it easy this weekend....


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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: May Fri 17, 2019 4:28 am 
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nice work David . i have to figure it out to use it correct .


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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: May Sat 18, 2019 12:46 am 
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Yah, by itself it isn't much use. :-) Its much an exercise for the reader.

Up on MediaFire I posted an archive containing a rough program that can be used w/ the CSV to generate XFIG Files:

./Z99-card5.pl 12au7 1 -> Generates 12AU7-1-2.FIG in the current directory
./Z99-card5.pl 12au7 2 -> Generates 12AU7-2-2.FIG in the current directory

https://www.mediafire.com/dholland

In the Hickok123A-Cards.zip is:
1) The Original Source Material
2) The CSV database.
3) The Perl program referred to above.
4) The XFIG files
5) PDF's generated from the XFIG files.

Perhaps you can feed the raw PDF's straight to a cutter. <shrug> We seem to have lost anchorman.

At some point I'll either find access to a laser cutter, or end up buying one, but that won't be for a rather long time.

HTH someone in the future,

David

PS: Don't ask about the filename, and some of the other cruft left lying around in the source code. It really isn't worth explaining.


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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: May Mon 20, 2019 2:06 pm 
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i think anchorman is waiting on the cards i sent him , they should be there soon as it's been a few weeks now
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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
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Was anyone able to get the cards imaged. I am looking for some since my KS-15874-L2 only came with the small Western Electric set and not complete at that.
If it was done, is it available on the web? I have the set that was posted for the Cardmatic 123, but I am looking for the 1234 specific cards.

Please let me know if it is available on the web?

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PostPosted: Oct Sat 10, 2020 3:23 pm 
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No, I never did unfortunately, and I don't foresee getting ahold of Barry's any time soon. Perhaps someone else knows of another repository on the web.

David


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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: Oct Sat 10, 2020 3:35 pm 
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I'll try .... I brought them home. They sat here for a while. Then I decided to buy a radio parts business. The other day I took them back to the shop because I couldn't remember what I'd brought them home for. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: Oct Sun 11, 2020 3:49 pm 
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rtechone wrote:
Was anyone able to get the cards imaged. I am looking for some since my KS-15874-L2 only came with the small Western Electric set and not complete at that.
If it was done, is it available on the web? I have the set that was posted for the Cardmatic 123, but I am looking for the 1234 specific cards.

Please let me know if it is available on the web?

Thanks


I believe that the complete deck is available in digital format, though probably not in the exact format you appear to be seeking: to reproduce the physical cards for the reader of your tester. Years ago, there was a fellow selling an external relay box that essentially bypassed the card reader and set the relays in accordance with the stored data for each tube. I bet the data for that gizmo has gotta be out there somewhere, but how to back-translate it into the plastic cards for the original reader, that doesn´t sound like a simple job!

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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: Oct Mon 12, 2020 10:33 pm 
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See if this format works. If so I'll do the rest of the card pack.


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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: Oct Tue 13, 2020 1:25 pm 
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Hey,

I should be able to make that work...

A couple of things however....

Most importantly, please put the cards in approximately the same place each time. Butt a couple of them to the left/right/top/bottom/whichever edges of the scanner. I'll chop them into their individual cards w/ a script, and if the position varies greatly it starts becoming a manual process.

Less importantly, the Zener calibration card, its kind of low resolution for printing purposes.. My scripts won't do doodly with that, and since it'll just have to be a raw scan, straightened, and printed on a piece of paper, a little higher resolution might make for better printing.

A little more resolution might not hurt in general. You're scanning at 100dpi? Mebbe try 150-200dpi? More resolution will help with the "text" cards problem, and will give me more columns of pixels to aim for with my "autochop" script.

If file size starts becoming an issue, we can go to greyscale, and/or G4 compressed black and white TIF's... (Though if we go to G4 B&W TIFF's, I'd recommend 300dpi)

Lemme know what you think. I'll start playing with these two test cards, its been a while since I looked at my pile of scripts.

Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: Oct Tue 13, 2020 1:44 pm 
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See if this will work. It's 400dpi, A4 paper size. I tried 600dpi but apparently the site doesn't like the 3.2M file size. I suppose I can try to scan to hi rez PDF, but I won't be able to post those here.


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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: Oct Tue 13, 2020 2:34 pm 
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That's 400dpi?

I think the forums is doing something to the image. All I can download is a 707x1000 pixel image. Pretty much the same as the first post. At 400 DPI that works out to only 1.7"x2.5" I think an individual card is bigger than that. :-D

I'll PM you with my email address.

(FWIW, chopping the images out of the 4x4 grid should go pretty well.)

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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: Oct Thu 15, 2020 12:59 am 
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Thank you Barry H Bennett and dholland!

Super excited for the chance of punching my own test cards. I only have about 20 blanks but will be ordering some more for the more common tubes. I had been waiting for a long time to get my hands on this cardmatic and now the chance to punch my own cards is awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: Digitizing Hickok Cardmatic Test Card data
PostPosted: Oct Thu 15, 2020 1:10 am 
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Due to the file sizes, we're doing this via regular Email. Once all is done I'll post it up on my website in hi rez for all to use. If possible, I'll send it to BAMA as well if they are interested. Not quite sure yet whether it will be JPG or PDF format when done...tbd.

.....coming soon

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