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 Post subject: Never saw a soldering gun!
PostPosted: Jun Sun 16, 2019 10:34 pm 
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I had two young electronic techs out to my house to service an electronic gizmo. A connection needed to be soldered. One of them said he had to go out to his truck to get his soldering iron. I have a very long driveway and he was parked in the street. I told him he could use mine. He was grateful until I handed him my Weller soldering gun. Neither of them had ever seen such a thing before. I had to tell them how it worked - pull the trigger. They both thought that was really a great invention. I feel old.


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 Post subject: Re: Never seen a soldering gun!
PostPosted: Jun Sun 16, 2019 10:58 pm 
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I've seen LOTS of soldering guns----I NEVER want to see one again.....so there!!....:):)

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 Post subject: Re: Never seen a soldering gun!
PostPosted: Jun Sun 16, 2019 11:02 pm 
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I just found my Weller gun the other day. Ever since switching to Metcal I'd forgotten I have it!


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 Post subject: Re: Never seen a soldering gun!
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I once had a bakelite Weller that I used alot. But they only last so long. Fall off the bench or whatever. Bakelite does not endure accidents for long. Now the replacement is some sort of plastic. Just hope they don't get so infatuated with the soldering gun that they use it for everything.

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 Post subject: Re: Never seen a soldering gun!
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pixellany wrote:
I've seen LOTS of soldering guns----I NEVER want to see one again.....so there!!....:):)

I love my 8200 & D550 guns.

I use a iron for working on that toy stuff. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
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The only time I use a gun is when I have to solder directly to metal...other than that, it's irons all the way for me

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The only time I use a gun is when I have to solder directly to metal...other than that, it's irons all the way for me

That's why Metcal's rock. If I need to switch from SMD to soldering to a 1/4-20 bolt all I do is change tips.


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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
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I never liked the Weller guns, the tips were forever coming loose and they bent too easily, and they were usually held together with black electricians tape, because Bakelite is a poor material to make a often dropped item out of..


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J. Hill wrote:
I feel old.

You are old! Bwahahaha!

(J/K Jim!)

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My earliest Weller... His first commercial soldering gun in 1946. 73 years old, still works.
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Still have and use my first soldering gun (Weller 8200) my Dad bought for me over 50 years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
PostPosted: Jun Mon 17, 2019 2:13 pm 
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J. Hill wrote:
I feel old.


No need to. This is just another example of the myopic ignorance that proliferates the
next-gen whiz kids. You see it every day. Some twenty-nothing will act like he's never heard of
huge actors and musicians popular before he was born. Or they will stare dumb-founded at an analog
clock or dial telephone. Hell, I was born in the 50s and I PAID ATTENTION to things that came before me!
I could tell you who Rudy Vallee or Ty Cobb was or what a coherer or cat-whisker was. Don't/didn't these
muttonheads pay attention to ANYTHING in the periphery of their existence?


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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
PostPosted: Jun Mon 17, 2019 2:55 pm 
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Eric H wrote:
I never liked the Weller guns, the tips were forever coming loose and they bent too easily, and they were usually held together with black electricians tape, because Bakelite is a poor material to make a often dropped item out of..

I don't have bend issues, trying to use it as a drill?

Yes tips loosen with heat cycling, as long as you're not talking about the junk made in the '80s with tip retention screws, easy fix. Loosen ½ turn and re-tighten is all that's required, takes all of five seconds. At that point tip heats nicely and doesn't require excess pressure for heat transfer. Still have my first one I bought with Green Stamps in the mid '60s.

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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
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Right, the Weller kit has the little wrench for keeping the nuts tight. Maintenance.
And the best Wellers are old Wellers, fellers.

That reminds me of grease guns, another relic of the past. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
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Right, the Weller kit has the little wrench for keeping the nuts tight. Maintenance.
And the best Wellers are old Wellers, fellers.

That reminds me of grease guns, another relic of the past. :lol:

I have a nice Lincoln bought at a yard sale a few years back. Yes I use it.

And the dial phones? The neighbors girl was over playing with granddaughter(maybe 12 at time), asked to use phone to call home. Wife pointed to a Princess dial on her desk, Katie exclaimed, "a twisty phone". She had no idea how to use it. Once wife explained usage, she thought it was neat.

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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
PostPosted: Jun Mon 17, 2019 7:07 pm 
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Tim Mullen wrote:
tubes4life wrote:
The only time I use a gun is when I have to solder directly to metal...other than that, it's irons all the way for me

That's why Metcal's rock. If I need to switch from SMD to soldering to a 1/4-20 bolt all I do is change tips.


Exactly.

I love my Metcal I have at work.

If not for them being so expensive and the desoldering tool needing shop air, I'd have one at home.


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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
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How about this soldering "Gun" ?

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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
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So that Wen 75 would have produced about 54 watts. Good enough for most point to point wiring, except maybe soldering to the chassis.

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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
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I got used to using my Weller gun in the 70s and 80s as a car electronics installer. It worked better outdoors in the cold or wind. was better for soldering thick wires. Easier to put aside when not needed. Less worry of burning myself from accidently leaning on a hot iron still running.

These days its still handy because I work on thick cables on my electric vehicles. Or soldering coax connectors while up on my tower. IIRC my original gun from the 70s is usable but cracked. I have 2 others I received as presents over the decades that are still in use.

I got a chuckle from some Youtube videos of teenagers being challenged to make a call on a rotary phone. Its funny and sad. The videos of them not knowing how to read an analog clock or do cursive writing are just the sad part, not funny.


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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
PostPosted: Jun Mon 17, 2019 10:42 pm 
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Soldering guns are an abomination. They are heavy, generate strong magnetic fields, and you have to wait for them to warm up every time you pull the switch. Since you are holding it with your fist, you have very little control.

I own about four or five of them and refuse to use them. I even have spare parts including tips and switches.

They fall into the category of stuff like WD-40, which I won't allow in the house. These are heavy handed gross tools for doing what should be a delicate sensitive job.


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 Post subject: Re: Never saw a soldering gun!
PostPosted: Jun Tue 18, 2019 12:17 am 
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Obviously you wouldn't use one for soldering a surface mount part or most radio repairs but to proclaim them an abomination is a little overboard. If I wanted to solder on a connector on a #10 wire outside in the wind I surely wouldn't reach for my 40-60 watt iron.


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