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 Post subject: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
PostPosted: Apr Thu 08, 2021 12:06 am 
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I was hired to refinish and repair the cabinet on this fabulous 1938 Rock-Ola. The owner brought it down from Indiana and left it. Cabinet onlyis what im doing, he has someone else doing the rest of it. The cabinet was missing the front lower trim molding and so I fabricated one here. I mainly refinish radio cabinets and other antique stuff. You always see me on the cabinet side of this forum although have refinished a number of Jukes but mainly radio cabinets for collectors. Just wanted to show you guys this juke and feel free to comment on this post . I'm almost finished with cabinet, the last pictures looks like im finished but not so, shown now is all the color and toning done and was cleared in a lacquer vinyl sealer only, it may look finished but not. Next step now is lightly sand the clear sealer and start spraying on the lacquer clear and then the finishing process should be completed unless something un for seen happens which it wont in most case. Now if I drank a case of beer and started to spray on the clear i mite have some problems. Thanks for looking. Stayed tuned in for completion of the new high quality lacquer finish Fred Taylor Garland tx


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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
PostPosted: Apr Thu 08, 2021 12:11 am 
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Fred,
That is one nice result. I'm pretty sure some of
my acquaintances have had you do some
jukebox cabinet work.
You have earned a very good reputation.

The style of the '38 Rock-Ola really is ahead of
its time.
I would have thought it was from the late '40s or
even very early '50's.

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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
PostPosted: Apr Thu 08, 2021 12:13 am 
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Here is lower trim molding for the Rock-Ola and a huge Zenith 1000-Z stratosphere radio cabinet I had refinished last year for a collector in California. Very rare indeed.


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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
PostPosted: Apr Thu 08, 2021 1:02 am 
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The jukebox looks great Fred !!


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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
PostPosted: Apr Thu 08, 2021 1:36 am 
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John Bartley wrote:
The jukebox looks great Fred !!

Thanks John, i will finish up with the clear coating tonight. I just happen to come in the house and I saw your reply.. I'm glad to see this wonderful machine getting a full restoration, it will live again in amazing display I'm sure and entertaining people who can relate to it coming from the dark days of the depression and WW2. This Rock - Ola should never be forgotten as its a part of American history.


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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
PostPosted: Apr Thu 08, 2021 1:40 am 
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You are a master craftsman!

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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
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tbone8 wrote:
You are a master craftsman!

Thank you Tbone. I use to paint high end cars for a living. Retired from that now using my skills on antique radio cabinets and furniture & jukes..


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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
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Ok i just got out of shop , I layed down 6 coats of semi gloss Precatilized clear lacquer. Looks great did not drink anything except water while doing this.. I quit drinking 11 years ago. Very smooth finish, I added some retarder and thinned the clear out a little for better flow out & dropped my air pressure a little. Smooth smooth smooth. Tomorrow i will install the doors to cabinet and start on a round wood Wurlitzer satellite speaker that mounts on a wall powered from a juke box. More pics tomorrow with cabinet together.


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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
PostPosted: Apr Thu 08, 2021 7:33 pm 
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All finished up today, what a beast. Looks fantastic, that smooth lacquer finish and fresh color makes this Rock-Ola look like it was just un boxed from factory. This cabinet you could say had a skin peel, women would know what I'm talking about. The owner will be fascinated will the results of a professional Lacquer finish that was applied to this cabinet. Doesn't get any better than this. Thanks for looking. Fred Taylor Garland Tx.


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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
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Absolutely stunning. I am suitably impressed.


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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
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Just curious, not an expert by any means. The clearcoat you used is lacquer, correct. Do you ever use polyurethane instead? Why or why not?

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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
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tbone8 wrote:
Just curious, not an expert by any means. The clearcoat you used is lacquer, correct. Do you ever use polyurethane instead? Why or why not?

Yes i use Lacquer on all my restorations. Lacquer was used on these sets when they were made. Lacquer is easy to use, dries fast, very forgiving. I don't like to use polyurethane on antique furniture. These old radio cabinets and Jukebox's were done in Lacquer from the factory..


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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
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Excellent, and another example of the beautiful wood often found under old finishes!

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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
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fred taylor wrote:
tbone8 wrote:
Just curious, not an expert by any means. The clearcoat you used is lacquer, correct. Do you ever use polyurethane instead? Why or why not?

Yes i use Lacquer on all my restorations. Lacquer was used on these sets when they were made. Lacquer is easy to use, dries fast, very forgiving. I don't like to use polyurethane on antique furniture. These old radio cabinets and Jukebox's were done in Lacquer from the factory..


Makes sense :D . I have a cabinet that needs a new clear coat, is there a particular lacquer that you recommend for a guy to use?

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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
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tbone8 wrote:
fred taylor wrote:
tbone8 wrote:
Just curious, not an expert by any means. The clearcoat you used is lacquer, correct. Do you ever use polyurethane instead? Why or why not?

Yes i use Lacquer on all my restorations. Lacquer was used on these sets when they were made. Lacquer is easy to use, dries fast, very forgiving. I don't like to use polyurethane on antique furniture. These old radio cabinets and Jukebox's were done in Lacquer from the factory..


Makes sense :D . I have a cabinet that needs a new clear coat, is there a particular lacquer that you recommend for a guy to use?

Pre catalyzed clear semi gloss lacquer, or what ever sheen you like, satin, semi gloss or high gloss.


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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
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fred taylor wrote:
Pre catalyzed clear semi gloss lacquer, or what ever sheen you like, satin, semi gloss or high gloss..


Fred thanks! Any particular brand you like and can it be applied by brush or gun?

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 Post subject: Re: Very rare Rock-Ola monarch model 20 cabinet refinish.
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I have been using Mohawk clear. It readily available here in Dallas and don't brush it on, invest in a spray gun and compressor. There are good clears out there so it does not have to be from Mohawk.


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