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 Post subject: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Wed 13, 2019 11:13 pm 
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I have 2 issues dealing with the turn table and not sure if the 2 issues are connected. First when playing record it goes over and sits on record and just keeps going around but doesn’t start playing.

Second the record skins the side of the player as it goes around. Not sure if it’s skimming the side because of the mat that looks a bit warped or if the turn table itself isn’t secured tight enough underneath. I’ve attached a picture of the turn table mat and underneath where the clip attaches the turn table.


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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Wed 13, 2019 11:38 pm 
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The record groove for the stylus to ride in starts out near the edge of the record. There is a very small area between the start of this groove and the edge of the record. If your needle is good, it is probably hitting the record just outside the groove slightly too close to the edge of the record. You should have an adjustment that will make the position of the stylus move lightly towards the center of the record. If, when the record drops and just sits there, very gently manually touch the outside of the cartridge, making it move slightly towards the middle of the record. It should then find the groove and begin playing.
If it plays fine if you manually put in somewhere else on the record, then this is probably your problem.

You may want to move this thread to the phonograph section.

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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Wed 13, 2019 11:53 pm 
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Thank you Jimmy, the needle has been replaced.


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 Post subject: Clips Holding Turn Table
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 12:19 am 
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With limited knowledge on my 67 Zenith stereo console I have noticed the clips underneath turn table and they don’t look like they are total secured. Am I wrong on this or is this just how they sit?


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 Post subject: Re: Clips Holding Turn Table
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 12:29 am 
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They are in the position for use - to remove the turn table, you'd tilt the black clip 90 degrees (press on the thicker end, toward the cabinet), and once all are in position, the turntable can be lifted from the cabinet.

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In shipment, or in moving the stereo, you'd crank down on the screw(if equipped...), rigidly fastening the turn table to the cabinet, and avoid having the turn table bounce around in the cabinet. Your fastener doesn't have that option.

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 Post subject: Re: Clips Holding Turn Table
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 12:32 am 
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So yes they are in the correct position than? I’m not taking the turn table out at this point.


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 Post subject: Re: Clips Holding Turn Table
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 12:34 am 
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Leave them as be. There are springs under the turntable that provide cushioning/dampening.

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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 12:46 am 
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No, the needle should not be sitting on an angle. It should be 90 degrees to the record.
The needle is not causing the problem with the record mat. Can you remove the mat easily from the turntable. Need to determine if the entire turntable is leaning or just the mat. It's possible the record spindle in the center may be bent causing the entire turntable section to be not level.

Can you post a pic of the bottom of the cartridge from the end of the arm showing how the needle is sitting?

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 Post subject: Re: Clips Holding Turn Table
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Thank you very much, I can rule that out now .


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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
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Here ya go.


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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
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Looks like it is a dual needle cartridge. One is for 78 rpm records. As you turn it from one to the other the stop should be parallel to the arm with the top of the needle in the middle in the groove of the bottom of the cartridge. Is the knob on top of the arm labelled 78 and LP, so you know which needle is in position?

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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 1:56 am 
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Yes there is.


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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
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Can you get it to line up where the needle is centered under the cartridge?

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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 2:42 am 
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I got it a bit closer but to me the needle itself just seems to be angled to one side. My neighbor got it fro voice of music but I’m not totally sold on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 2:51 am 
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When the arm lowers onto the record, the needle should go in the groove on the cartridge. Do you know if the cartridge is good? With the amplifier on, if you touch the needle, you should hear it through the amp. If you touch it and nothing is heard, there is a problem. Did you decide if the entire turntable is leaning on one side?

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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 2:55 am 
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Looks like it was bent and twisted probably while being swept across a record. I would try to delicately twist it back so it's perpendicular to the record and parallel with the tone arm.

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 Post subject: Re: Clips Holding Turn Table
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Can we get a picture of that happening? There are a lot of things that could be causing that.

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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 3:03 am 
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You need to make sure the turntable is level. It should not be leaning to one side.

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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 3:05 am 
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The mat on the table should also sit flat on the top of the turntable.

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 Post subject: Re: Turn Table Issue
PostPosted: Feb Thu 14, 2019 3:26 am 
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I’m not sure how to determine if the turn table is not dirty level. Is there something for me to look at underneath with out taking the turn table out?


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