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 Post subject: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
PostPosted: Oct Fri 31, 2014 10:54 pm 
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Picked up this little Zenith a little over a year ago. It is the famous "Twin Seven" built in 1949 as a result of 'The War of the Speeds' between RCA and Columbia. The player has the unique design of only one tone arm but two separate turntables changers that spin at different speeds. One TT plays the RCA 45-rpm 7 inch records and the other TT plays the Columbia 33-1/3 7-rpm inch records. A great design oddity and highly collectible.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
PostPosted: Oct Fri 31, 2014 11:00 pm 
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Are those changers manual or automatic?


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
PostPosted: Nov Sat 01, 2014 1:55 am 
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Todd, that thing is in beautiful condition. Even the usually half-missing Twin Seven decal looks perfect! Does this one use the "Radionic" cartridge?


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
PostPosted: Nov Sat 01, 2014 3:04 am 
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Larry, it is automatic like an RCA 45 player...kinda. The spindles are both stationary unlike an RCA 45 player. It has a totally different set up, both TTs spin at the same time. Here is what the assembly looks like free from the player.

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Charlie, that is pretty funny you mentioned the perfect decal. There was a "collector" out there that was after this one I heard. Apparently he already had a couple Twin Sevens but none with a decal in as good as condition as this one. :lol:

Yes, it has the Radionic cartridge, the all green one and it is in great working shape thank the lord. Those things are impossible to find and VERY expensive when new. I have two other Zeniths I am working on right now and what a unique change from RCAs...! One is the original Zenith Cobramatic and the other with the VM/Cobramatic changer.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
PostPosted: Nov Sat 01, 2014 2:17 pm 
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bastardbus wrote:
Larry, it is automatic like an RCA 45 player...kinda. The spindles are both stationary unlike an RCA 45 player. It has a totally different set up, both TTs spin at the same time. Here is what the assembly looks like free from the player.


But that means no fun watching the top 45s spin :? Cool player,tho'.


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
PostPosted: Nov Sat 01, 2014 9:35 pm 
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HI FI BOB wrote:

But that means no fun watching the top 45s spin :? Cool player,tho'.


True but get to watch the two turntables spin instead AND they spin at different speeds!

The different speed thing really gets your head whirling if you stare at them too long.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
PostPosted: Nov Sat 01, 2014 11:02 pm 
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Todd,

Very nice find. Not a very common Zenith radio/phono, in fact quite rare as you probably know. Yours is in great condition.

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And he scores!....AGAIN!

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
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I also have a lead on the sister player to the Twin Seven. I think it is Zenith Model T545, it looks just like the Twin Seven but only has the RCA RP-190 inside instead of the two turntables. Not near as nice as this one but heard it is pretty stinking rare as well.

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Never saw one of those before. Totally Cool!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
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Of course the Columbia 7 inchers were a complete and utter failure in the market. Does anyone know of a player designed to play the Columbia 7's exclusively? Makes you wonder why Zenith would have bothered while the rest of the market seemed to ignore the 7" 33's completely.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
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jmsent wrote:
Of course the Columbia 7 inchers were a complete and utter failure in the market. Does anyone know of a player designed to play the Columbia 7's exclusively? Makes you wonder why Zenith would have bothered while the rest of the market seemed to ignore the 7" 33's completely.


I think there is a Webcor and Adrmiral (probably also built by Webcor) from the same time frame that also plays both formats of the 7 inch records.

I don't think the Columbia 7 inch was ignored, remember all you had to do to play it on any multi speed player was just turn the speed to 33 and the index to 7 inch.

During the war of the speeds I don't think Columbia wanted anything to do with a 7 inch of any kind and only just made them as a last resort before both they and RCA finally gave in and started producing each others format.

Phil Vourtsis' Victrola book has a great chapter on this. I think any and everyone interested in records or record players should know the history and full story of the "War of the Speeds" between Columbia and RCA. It explains so much in what we see in these old bits of electronics we all collect. I think that is what makes the "Twin Seven" such a special player it is direct result of that clash between the two monsters of industry at the time.

Phil V or Phono Jack should write up a "War of the Speeds" thread and make it a sticky here on the forums.

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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
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Anyone have one of these beauties for sale?


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 Post subject: Re: Zenith "Twin Seven" Model G660 45 Record Player
PostPosted: Oct Wed 23, 2019 1:30 am 
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I would be willing to sell this or another I have PM me

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