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Merrill Bancroft
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Dec Sun 17, 2017 1:37 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 1887 Location: Townsend, Ma.
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This is a very rare Fada 140A from 1922. Probably close to being the very first Fada radio. I know of only one other surviving example. This hasn't seen restoration. I thought it was fine the way I bought it.
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bigalarsen
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Dec Sun 17, 2017 4:40 pm |
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This probably doesn't qualify as a battery set since there aren't any batteries involved with the tuner but it is still fairly rare. This is my 1920 Clapp-Eastham Z.R.F. Regenerative Receiver with a homemade cabinet. Attachment:
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bigalarsen
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Dec Sat 30, 2017 1:49 pm |
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Joined: Mar Fri 28, 2008 2:49 pm Posts: 1395 Location: Phoenix, AZ 85085
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I would say this set qualifies as being somewhat rare. I only know of a handful still surviving. This is a Bett's & Bett's Corp. Bett's Special Tuner Type RC-11 and the Bett's Visible D2A Detector Amplifier Alan Attachment:
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Dec Sat 30, 2017 7:30 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 4886 Location: Eschew Obfuscation Virginia 23005
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arzoo623 wrote: My Giblin Model RL and associated accessories and memorabilia. Thanks for posting the picture of the Rutland Vermont Senators. I had seen that picture in the past and always wondered what was the receiver! BR, Terry
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Robert Lozier
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Jan Mon 01, 2018 4:47 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 2011 Location: Monroe, NC 28112 USA
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Ed, I posted this thread in 2014: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=246881&hilit=halowatThe AW-5... What caught my eye was that it has the broadcast band broken up into three ranges. Two of the ranges are switched in the same fashion as the Grebe Synchrophase. I can't think of any other US makers that did this. (The Kellogg Wave Magnet sets don't count to may way of thinking.) You are right about the Hegehog trannys often found O.C. but both in my set are good... Robert
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Ed Jacobs
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Jan Mon 01, 2018 6:40 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 7240 Location: Portland Oregon
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I missed it completely but our radios are quite different. Here is mine on top and yours is below. The controls are in different places as are the Halowat logos Ed  
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Robert Lozier
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Jan Mon 01, 2018 7:13 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 2011 Location: Monroe, NC 28112 USA
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Yes indeed, the market was changing rapidly and small'ish business were most certainly building in small batches that they could tweak or change drastically without heavy investment in tooling or changes to the manufacturing floor.
The 'radio fiend' of the day was surely singing the blues if he were anchored to a set three or four years old.. Maybe just two sometimes...
Really no different than the relentless change of now days...
My PC hardware AND heavily used software are now 10 years old, I'm terrified at having to upgrade everything probably very soon... Not just for the hardware upgrade but facing the fact that really useful boxed software has been replaced by 'vampire - never ending subscriptions' For folks like me on SSI, that is VERY bad.
Robert
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Merrill Bancroft
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Jan Mon 01, 2018 7:39 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 1887 Location: Townsend, Ma.
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Alan, Here are the undersides of my Betts and Betts pair, unrestored of course. The amp is on the top.The topsides are identical to yours but I am wondering what your serial numbers are and if the same person was the final inspector. The Betts and Betts horn appears to be identical to a Metal Products Company horn. Thanks for posting these pieces. There might have been a more elaborate set that came along later.
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bigalarsen
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Jan Mon 01, 2018 9:03 pm |
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Thanks Merrill, Here are the pictures from my sets. Apparently these sets were in production a lot longer than you would think since my tuner has a 1-28-1924 date which I would assume was the inspection date and the D/A has 11-28-23 on it. It appears that all four pieces were inspected by the same person. Interesting stuff. With a serial number range as large as is shown it is surprising more of these sets haven't surfaced. Alan Tuner tag Attachment:
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UV201
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Jan Tue 02, 2018 11:55 pm |
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Joined: Nov Fri 30, 2012 3:35 am Posts: 195 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I don't know who built this, but I wish they had because they deserve to have put their name on it. I've never seen another like it. Elements of the construction suggest home-brew, or perhaps a set assembled from a kit (anyone have any clues?), but there was a lot of thought put into the layout and the construction quality is first-rate. Both the primary and secondary windings on both Hegehog transformers are good. R/ John
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Jan Tue 02, 2018 11:56 pm |
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Correction to the first sentence in my earlier post: I wish the builder had put their name on it ... R/ John
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Jan Wed 03, 2018 12:23 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 125 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
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Hard not to love a well made early radio with Hegehog (aka hedgehog) transformers.
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Merrill Bancroft
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Jan Sat 06, 2018 2:07 pm |
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Merrill Bancroft
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Jan Tue 23, 2018 11:44 pm |
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This group was manufactured under the name RECO (Radio Electric Company) of Fremont, Ohio. An identical pair was sold at John Terrey's auction a while ago. This group came from Rochester a few years ago. I'm trying to find the owner of Terreys sets so we can compare them. Probably 1922 or early 1923. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=334543
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Merrill Bancroft
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Feb Tue 20, 2018 1:36 am |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 1887 Location: Townsend, Ma.
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This is a pair of TECLA (Thomas E. Clark) portables which as far as I know are the only survivors. They share cabinets with the more common crystal set. I have a framed factory photo which shows similar versions as well as other sets that are probably extinct . I found these at a Lansing meet probably 20 years ago in a dilapidated condition at 4 am. (proving the old adage about the early bird...)
I was hoping to see more activity here. I know you guys have some good stuff.
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bigalarsen
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Feb Tue 20, 2018 4:41 am |
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Okay Merrill I'll see if I can add a few sets to keep this thread going and I love your Tecla pair. Here is my fairly rare Firth 1-Tube 41-A Attachment:
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Feb Tue 20, 2018 8:04 am |
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Feb Tue 20, 2018 8:13 am |
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Here's an early one tube set made by Northland Radio Company here in Minneapolis, found here many years ago in an antique shop! It's the only one like it that I've seen. It was built using a RAY-DE-O Case and it works.
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Merrill Bancroft
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Feb Mon 26, 2018 11:26 pm |
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Joined: Jan Thu 01, 1970 1:00 am Posts: 1887 Location: Townsend, Ma.
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This is a seldom seen A. C. Dayton R-12 from 1923 or 4. This was a predecessor to the XL series by that company. Production was evidently limited . I have seen only one or two ads for it and only one other set. I'll post an ad here when I find it.
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FStephenMasek
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Post subject: Re: Rare 1920's Battery Sets Posted: Feb Tue 27, 2018 7:42 pm |
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First, if you did not see my other thread, Photobucket now has a $99 annual plan for those only putting photos on forums and such, but not selling on EBay and such. How about my Priess Straight 8  
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