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 Post subject: Solder or sodder?
PostPosted: May Fri 10, 2019 3:25 am 
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Which way does you says it? I've always said sodder as the L is silent to me. What do you think?

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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I was taught the ‘L’ is silent, since high school. 60’s, Signal Core service and college 70’s, and career thru 2017.

Mr. Carlson pronounces the ‘L’. He also pronounces a lot of words differently, maybe it’s a Canadian thing. No harm, doesn't Make right or wrong

My dad used corporal learning on me. I remember getting a slap on the head for not pronouncing the word ,’mirror’ correctly when identifying the parts of an optical microscope. He also instilled word “solder”, with the ‘L’ silent.


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The British pronounce the L, most Americans don’t.

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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Most folks I know say something like "sorder".

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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It is sodder in Canada. It is just always spelled wrong, or spelt if you like, like walk, talk or chalk. :lol:

Golf shoes and some logger's boots have screw-in corks in the soles, but the spelling is very wrong - 'caulks'. :x
When 'caulk' is spelled right, it can be used to fill holes. But the L is still silent, so no wonder people get words wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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Soder is an obsolete form of Solder.

Noah Webster's 1913 on-line dictionary...
https://www.websters1913.com/words/Solder

Solder does not have a silent L
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Y2KEDDIE wrote:
I was taught the ‘L’ is silent, since high school. 60’s, Signal Core service and college 70’s, and career thru 2017.

Mr. Carlson pronounces the ‘L’. He also pronounces a lot of words differently, maybe it’s a Canadian thing. No harm, doesn't Make right or wrong

My dad used corporal learning on me. I remember getting a slap on the head for not pronouncing the word ,’mirror’ correctly when identifying the parts of an optical microscope. He also instilled word “solder”, with the ‘L’ silent.


Eddie, how did you know what I was watching! :shock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWXbdCz-AiY

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Silent “L”, but there is a third pronunciation for those of us in Massachusetts; soddah.

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Mr Carlson pronounces the L .... can't be wrong, can it? :-D

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So I went googling and found an interesting discussion of the difference ...

Apparently "solder" is a noun and describes the material that is used to join pieces together.

And, "soder" is a verb describing the action of using solder to do the joining.

Further, thru' incorrect usage and spelling (while in common use) the terms have changed over the years and now "solder" is both a noun and a verb, depending on it's context in the sentence.

That's all new to me .... I learned something new again today ... it's a good day!


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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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To me, the "L" makes a very subtle change in pronunciation----eg the difference between "wood" and "would". There are many examples of consonants that are **almost** pronounced. eg, in French, the word "sur" is pronounced almost like "sewer"---you start to pronounce the w, but don't quite get there.

But then, why is "solder" not pronounced like older, folder, bolder, molder, colder, holder....etc.?

English is weird----in some areas, you get to a service station, buy gas, and check walter, earl, and the tars---they might say "sawder".......;)

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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Solder or sodder?

Neither, soder. If it were sodder, I'd think it's a person who installs turf.

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American pronunciation of that word drives me mad.

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Neither. It's Funky Melting Wire. (Fun-kEE - Mel-TIN' - WAUR) :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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Neither. It's Funky Melting Wire. (Fun-kEE - Mel-TIN' - WAUR) :lol:

One of my early mentors called it "melty-wire".....:)

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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The silent L seems to work better for solder than it's companion, flux. Now how about the pronunciation of the word "facade".

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 Post subject: Re: Solder or sodder?
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pixellany wrote:

English is weird----in some areas, you get to a service station, buy gas, and check walter, earl, and the tars---they might say "sawder".......;)

You've been on the east coast too long already, Pix old boy. You'd never hear pronunciation like that out here. :wink:

AFA the term, solder; in my experience it's always been a silent "L", and used as both a noun and a verb.

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My example was the "Texas" dialect......as in "Heidi, Yawl".
Here in the colonies, we speak the King's English.....

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Squire wrote:
The British pronounce the L, most Americans don’t.


So Holder would be "otter"?


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